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I hope this isn't one of those scary topics that will degrade into bickering. I've been listening to some sermons given by some SSPV priests, and it's made me curious about this society. Do any of you with knowledge about these matters know of/about this society? What exactly is their position with the Catholic Church? Do you think it's dangerous to read their writings or listen to their sermons and talks?
__________________ Dear Lord, I know I can live by Your Holy Will every moment of my life, because You have given me faith that Your Grace will enable me to.
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The SSPV was founded by "the nine," priests who were expelled from the SSPX US District in the early 1980s for their Sedevacantist views which they refused to hush up about. They also felt that Abp. Lefebvre was "caving in to modernism" when he elected to use the 1962 Missal, because they felt that the 1950s missal was better. (There were some changes in the '50s and '60s before the "big change" of the Novus Ordo.... but the changes were not dangerous to souls or the faith, which same thing can't be said of the NO changes. Honestly, the '50s missal *is* better, and the old Holy Week is gorgeous, but ...we're Catholics: we can't just refuse obedience for aesthetic reasons, there has to be a positive danger to the faith.)
I wouldn't go to their Masses, or give them money, but their sermons are certainly orthodox, and make very good listening. Since their society is not officially sedevacantist (they leave it up to the individual priest) this means that their sermons are free of sede rhetoric and don't pose a danger in that way. Their internet radio station is, frankly, a wonderful site, and I'd encourage anyone to check it out, as long as he knows who the SSPV are, etc.
(Since the '80s, "the nine" have split in different ways. At least two of them are now sedevacantist bishops, and I believe only five are still in the SSPV.) __________________ God bless,
Love God, serve God: everything is in that. -- St. Clare of Assisi
Holy Communion is the shortest and safest way to Heaven. -- Pope St. Pius X
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I agree with Eric, and add that the sisters in Round Top New York have two of the most beautiful Christmas CD's I have ever heard, and Mother Mary Bosco is an excellent speaker, particularly on the temperaments, family life, and things like that.
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I am blessed to have the opportunity to listen to wfts and whatever I want online while completing menial tasks on the computer at work all day.
After listening to many hours of sermons etc. I think I'm finding that listening to wfts can indeed be dangerous to the faith. It has me spinning around wondering if NO sacraments are valid, if my marriage is valid etc. I've been praying on it, and decided that I just need to stop listening. I've turned my attention to a huge amount of penanceware, sermons and talks by Fr. Ripperger of the FSSP. I found it thanks to a recent post by Nicollette! Thanks nicollette! In fact, I've been getting so much out of Fr. Rippeger's sermons, I think I'm going to start another thread about it. __________________ Dear Lord, I know I can live by Your Holy Will every moment of my life, because You have given me faith that Your Grace will enable me to.
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Originally Posted by
Miss_Fluffy I found it thanks to a recent post by Nicollette! Thanks nicollette!
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a mother to two girls
and a definite coffee heretic.